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Points man it all about the points!
The reason ratings are reset is that the RM General was being used for 1v1 and team games and the vast number of smurfs create over-inflated ratings. The new ladder, decay system, co-op disabled for 1v1 and 1v1 disabled from RM Team Games ladder means that the new ratings will be far more accurate.
I will explain my own reasoning concerning RM Team Games rating:
If the team game ratio of an 1k6 player is 6 wins and 5 loses when he plays in 1k6 team games, and the team game ratio of Chris (who is 2k5 RM General) is 1 win and 4 loses when he plays in 2k+ teamgames, it means that the 1k6 player deserves better RM Team Game rating than Chris!
So RM Team Games and RM General ratings are two completely different logics. Let it the way it is and all players will have the Team Game ratings they deserve!
Regards,
Areg
So you're saying it's normal for you to have a rating higher than Chris or Cyclops? o.O
You should be happy to play games against these guys while you can and get the experience of it.
Please read with attention what i wrote.
My logic is: The Team Game rating reflects the ability of a player to play in team games where all players are approximately on the same level of skills. So if an 1k6 player has better team games results playing in 1k6 team games than the results Chris has playing in 2k+ teamgames, it means that his Team Game rating must be higher than the Team Game rating of Chris.
Of course the RM General (which includs also 1v1 games) and the RM 1v1 ratings of Chris must be better, because Chis is top expert, but the RM Team Games as i told is completely different logic.
Concerning the fact that i should be happy to play team games against these guys and be raped for 100% by them, I will tell u that i'm not a masochist...
If someone is still playing 1.6k games and winning them all then he is obviously creating new accounts every time he gets too high to play in them. If you are deliberately avoiding better players then you are a blight on the game and one of the reasons this reset happened.
Please read with attention what i wrote.
My logic is: The Team Game rating reflects the ability of a player to play in team games where all players are approximately on the same level of skills. So if an 1k6 player has better team games results playing in 1k6 team games than the results Chris has playing in 2k+ teamgames, it means that his Team Game rating must be higher than the Team Game rating of Chris.
Of course the RM General (which includs also 1v1 games) and the RM 1v1 ratings of Chris must be better, because Chis is top expert, but the RM Team Games as i told is completely different logic.
Concerning the fact that i should be happy to play team games against these guys and be raped for 100% by them, I will tell u that i'm not a masochist...
There is no requirement for teams to be equal skilled, higher rated against lower rated or other scenarios. The adjustment in how many points a player wins will be awarded fairly, i.e. if a 2.1k player beats a 1600 player in 1v1, he only wins 1 point.
Play the experts while you can, seriously.
- Any 2k++ player can win 3 if not 4 1500 alltogether, there is no logic to mix them.
- A lot of <1600 players have such rate since years, they dont care that pro players "teach them their errors" by powning them in 5 min, they just want to keep playing their "cool" games with their <1600 fellows.
- If Chris or those guys are really 2k3 or 2k4++ TG players, they 1st need to play a bit more than 5 games to get their TG ratings back, and they should be able to get such huge rates (with time) by playing with only 18++ players, if not only 2k++, it shouldnt be a problem for them to win those players. I doubt 18++ or 2k++ kick them when they enter in their rooms.
- If there is no infos about all players, u will have supernoobs who will f.u.c.k pro games, and superpros who will f.u.c.k noobs games, i dont think this will make everybody happy, also when <1600 players will be sick of being killed everytime by 10X better players, some will without doubt leave the game, especially new players, it will discourage them.
- Even if u hide old rates, i doubt it will that much accelerate the rates progression, most of players will just keep to play with only knowns, and kick the other unknowns, but u'll get those unfair games because of complete newbies or smurfs in addition.
+1
I like this idea. I would possibly suggest storing the top 100 though
Reset all please.
Now this changes, General to Team Games and 1x1... Just let the General ladder only then remove all others. A good 1x1 player should be good in a TG also!
But hey, whatever now, I wont be supporting Voobly in future... Im from the old school, one day you just get tired.
Personally I like the old ratings. They were based on a lot of time and a lot of data. There was good information in there. Not perfect information, but good information. I still like them, and I want to see them.
Maybe the thing to do is allow each person to decide if they want to see old ratings or not, with a setting they can check or not. I definitely want them.