Very Quick Analysis of Random

 Obfuscation


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Düzenlendi19/04/2016 - 22:20 tarafından Obfuscation
I decided to go and see if I could back up my views using data from random. I went through and simply copy pasted the usernames who played in the last 200 games of seasons 7 and 8 of CS - Random.

Contents:



Last 100 Games 03:09 AM 21/01/2016 - 03:09 PM 17/01/2016:
70 players (presume at least 8 smurfs)

Last 200 Games 03:09 AM 21/01/2016 - 01:38 AM 14/01/2016:
100 Players (Presume 10-15 smurfs)

Season 7 Account List


[ViCiouS]Gladiatorz_,
[dv8]Bryant_24
[ViCiouS]Raury
[dv8]Obfuscation
[ViCiouS]Mr_Canada,
__IVI__
Nayl4
[XceL]Jassim
Dan
[LC]24CoDaK
[ Epic_]GodPerses
[Eot_]TwEpY
[I3acI]Aegrod__
[7th]S0mBra_
[7th]tech771_
In_car
Rontgen
[zLG]Fanatic___
Askov,
[7th]Ch4rlatan
[ViCiouS]Crescent_
[DMz]kUrdy
[s1L3nT]_Dl24G0N_
[LeO]_Lucy
[Fairies]BlueDeath
[7th]BeNzY
ImVaibhav
[ Epic_]RAJPUT__
[DMz]Mascherano_1
[XceL]W0LF____
[7th]Vantage_,
[7th]Zanchy____,
PantsRDragon_
[7th]Faravahar
[I3acI]_King
[XceL]LegendxKiller
[ViCiouS]H00dluM
Quebecois_12
[Eot_]Eddy1
[Dcy]PatO
[FIz ]LeGiO
MkD_DaCe
[FIz ]JetTopistole
absurd_
RudBoySk
[Eot_]xVeniVidiVici
[Eot_]Viriathus
[Eot_]underOATH_
[Eot_]Alex
VanPersiie
[DMz]CeNGa_JiNe
Rh_
TheMg
[7th]blurrryface
[XceL]CaMp2gg_
[XceL]Frosty_
StilloveMe
[FIz ]JetTopistole
548345y0vwey0
[XceL]Donnie,
_Beatit,
CSA_R_Griffith
samhatescake
[ViCiouS]Mr_England
[ViCiouS]Mr_Mexico
TheFreeRider
LEY_paco
[ A ]Tobi_
Eddz
Mongolstyle,
[C 'l]Tala____
[ViCiouS]Mr_NewZealand,
[ 'b0x' ]YoSSeF_
shanksidstealer
_Mr_Clean_
Killpop
[Eot_]ForgiveMe_
Leopardo_
[ViCiouS]MiChiouS,
[10th]_Vanthom
BAGS,
Xer0Day
[ViCiouS]DeJ_Silhouette,
RightBoy
[ 33 ]xKary_
[7th]_Sirwan_1
Yeep
Foli__
[ Epic_]Amy__
PrIMeZ_X_StaR
moomoomoo
FxrY
[dv8]Peedepano
Xil3nt
[DMz]KataKana_
JonJonFlorence
SeettK
ADM__
Seeph
_KaNNaN

Last 100 Games 07:10 PM 19/04/2016 - 12.44 17/04/2016:
42 Players (Presume at least 5 smurfs)

Last 200 Games 07:10 PM 19/04/2016 - 04:57 PM 14/04/2016:
61 Players(Presume 5-10 smurfs)


To compensate for there being more games played in the same time period I extended the season 8 spread.

Season 8 260 Games 07:10 PM 19/04/2016 - 05:55 PM 12/04/2016
68 Players (Presume 5-10 smurfs)

Season 8 Account List


Rontgen
ImVaibhav
[7th]Ch4rlatan,
StilloveMe
[7th]Phurriz
[7th]Padishah
[7th]tech771_
[7th]Faravahar
616g
[ViCiouS]DeJ_Silhouette
[ 33 ]_SuNniC_
Mongolstyle
[DoWS_]ImFamous
F_ckMyCiv
[LyF]HumTum
[DoWS_]ZaRRar__
[ Epic_]BG_
[Eot_]xVeniVidiVici
[dv8]PlayMoB1L
Quebecois_12
[ 33 ]Goca
[ Epic_]Shifter_
[ 33 ]BelindaCarlisle
[I3acI]Aegrod__
[XceL]Adrift
[7th]Zanchy____
Omega_X_Pro,
RiSinG_X_HeRo
_Jlo
PrIMeZ_X_StaR
[Liege]_TheCobra_
[XceL]ZoRaT,
[DMz]williaMz_
[ViCiouS]Mr_Canada
walkthrutime
[dv8]Bryant_24
Dan
[Eot_]DEADGAME,
Like_Gg
[7th]blurrryface
FueledByRamen_
_sly_19
fahad1
CreativZero,
[Dcy]PatO,
[ViCiouS]__MrAnGeL__
[Eot_]ForgiveMe_
[ViCiouS]FezT__
_Beatit
el_totoro
Alesto
Bala_
[7th]_Vezir_
TheMg,
[7th]BeNzY
[FIz ]LeGiO
[Eot_]Viriathus
[FIz ]Deetr0h
_acidrocker
In_car,
vanthom,
SkayBeilinson,
[ Wf ]_Galahad
Mr_Pakistan
Donots,
warner_
Big_Ytri
[XceL]CaMp2gg_

Barry Says

Everyone will try to twist this to their own agenda and many will say I am doing the same. However look at it this way. I could use this as proof that I am the superior candidate to run the random ladder were I so inclined to do so. It would be false, but it could be done. The truth is that Malte is ten times the map maker I am and far more efficient besides.

Here is my prognosis on the state of the ladder. There are a few factors at play in the reduced player spread, not least the burnout from TIW. At the same time there are numerous players being discouraged from participating due to the militant behaviour of 7th and their propaganda against anyone who has a differing opinion. In addition to this, the very fact some players are refusing to play on anything but the TIW Tournament Pack is pushing traditional random players away as they do not want to play CBA/Hero, AoW or Europe. There cannot be two main random packs. There can be numerous random packs for other ladders, at least if voobly staff were doing their job right.


I said this before and I'll say it again. Add the non controversial maps from TIW Tournament Random to Random TG and we should be able to move past this bull****.
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 ['RB']Dan


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 21:10
expected
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 [7th]And1zeas


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Gönderiler:1624
Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 21:19
Damn, when was blue blood added again?
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 Obfuscation


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Düzenlendi19/04/2016 - 21:30 tarafından Obfuscation
A massive chunk of those games were TIW Random 1v1s between four players.

I'm going to add my opinions on now.
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 [dv8]NXTLVL


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Katılım Tarihi: 21/08/2012
Gönderiler:1127
Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 21:33
Didnt we already have a topic about 7th destroying random ladder? Why another one...
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 Obfuscation


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 21:41
Didnt we already have a topic about 7th destroying random ladder? Why another one...

I retain faint hope that reason can be used.
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 23RaidingParty


Grup: Standart Üyelik
Katılım Tarihi: 27/05/2008
Gönderiler:2265
Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:11
i told you many times before, random ladder has died, and with its death comes the end of custom scenario as a game mode playable by the public of Age of Empires II

there's a reason why i retired, there's a reason for the ever-decreasing playerbase, this time it's different, it really is the end of custom scenario in the realm of Age of Empires II
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 Obfuscation


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:13
i told you many times before, random ladder has died, and with its death comes the end of custom scenario as a game mode playable by the public of Age of Empires II

there's a reason why i retired, there's a reason for the ever-decreasing playerbase, this time it's different, it really is the end of custom scenario in the realm of Age of Empires II

You are right, if the trend continues. However there is yet time to stall the decline.
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 [xCs]SieKID94__


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Düzenlendi19/04/2016 - 22:16 tarafından [xCs]SieKID94__
i played about 1500 game which more than all season 7 ,measure it with games get played not with players
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 Obfuscation


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:18
i played about 1500 game which more than all season 7 ,measure it with games get played not with players

On the contrary, more players is better and is always better.
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 [ViCiouS]Marauder


Grup: Most Valuable Player
Katılım Tarihi: 19/12/2009
Gönderiler:4027
Düzenlendi19/04/2016 - 22:43 tarafından [ViCiouS]Marauder
Yes your stats certainly seem to indicate a decline

;huh

Season 7

Top 20 total matches played: 6031
Total players: 627

Season 8
Top 20 total matches played 7789
Total players: 425

I agree that the number of players are down but the number of games are up (I have been monitoring the activity of each RL for about the last year). It's not all doom and gloom despite the number of topics being made about the "state of the ladder".

What we need are solutions to figure out how to get more people involved while retaining the activity of the ladder. Taking sides against each other is fantastic and very CS-isk but doesn't accomplish anything. One proposal is to use the basic TIW pack which people seem to enjoy and remove the maps basically everyone I've spoken to have told me need to go. Those maps being Euro/CBA/CBA Hero.

I was speaking with Malte yesterday and he said he may invest time into making a fair side vs side version of CBA Plus, which I believe might be a good map to put in the pack since it provides a bit of variation to the standard cba play style.
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 ['RB']nhoobish


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:33
Almost as active as the Lord of the Rings community.
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 [ViCiouS]Skreemo


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:38
How did I not maje either list 11
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 ['RB']nhoobish


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:39
How did I not maje either list 11
Because you are banned.
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 Obfuscation


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Gönderildi 19/04/2016 - 22:41
How did I not maje either list 11

You did, as Mr_Pakistan 11


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